Episode 15: The Leadership No One Talks About Behind Group Programs (Session 11 with Jackie)

There’s a lot of talk in this industry about scaling with ease, but what often gets left out is the real leadership behind it that is required to run a powerful group or course. The emotional labor. The nuance. The constant clarity and communication it requires when you actually care about your clients’ experience.

In this episode, Jackie and I unpack what that leadership really looks like. From how “free to free” strategies are working differently right now, to why value doesn’t always equal connection, to the boredom and second-guessing that can creep in when you care deeply. This one’s a reminder that building something great isn’t always about doing less… it’s about showing up more intentionally.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

  • Why “free to free” strategies are thriving right now (and what’s behind that shift)
  • The surprising reason adding more value is killing your sales
  • What to do when you feel bored or disconnected from your content (and what it really means)
  • Why clarity, level-setting, and communication matter more than ever in group programs
  • The balance between listening to your audience and staying grounded in your truth
  • Why courses and group programs are harder when you care (and why that’s a good thing)

 

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